Patrick Mahomes SCARY Concussion! Doctor Reacts to Hit & Controversial Missed Call

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Brian Sutterer MD

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Patrick Mahomes of the Kansas City Chiefs suffered a scary head injury and concussion, displaying posturing, the fencing response, and wobbling on the field. Also, earlier in the game there was a controversial missed call on a helmet to helmet hit during the Chiefs NFL playoff victory over the Cleveland Browns. In this video we'll explain why this hit still caused a concussion, what exactly the fencing response is, and then my reaction to the missed call.

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Brian Sutterer MD
Brian Sutterer MD Oy oldin
Yea, I've seen the reports it was a "tweaked nerve" in his neck and not a concussion. But... There is no nerve in the side of the neck that would cause a fencing response when its hit. Could he have hit a nerve AND had a concussion? Sure, but the only thing that causes that fencing response is a brain injury/concussion.
Iresin1 17 kun oldin
Mitchell Brown
Mitchell Brown Oy oldin
Dr. Sutter you are absolutely right nevermind the people that do not understand physiology and or neurology. I suffered many when I played the game and I agree with you that the the Chiefs should have been penalized. It was obviously a helmet to helmet hit and I believe there was actually two that went unpenalized! The Browns are not complaining, I live in Missouri and let me assure you that Chiefs fans would still be crying if they had been called because we would have won the game. Go Browns!
Op-Ed Daily
Op-Ed Daily Oy oldin
Wrong - it wasn't a nerve injury OR a concussion -- he was choked out. That's it. I called it the moment I saw it happen.
@Mason Eads he was being sarcastic u big turd
@Jeff S lmao that's funny
purple purple
purple purple 15 kun oldin
definitely, penalize these defenders
Joseph Presseisen
Joseph Presseisen 27 kun oldin
So a dr. In Dallas went on air saying it was a bruised brain stem could that not be the case?
TKatGAMING Oy oldin
Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson. 2 star M.V.P are forced to be taken out of 3rd quarter, they both suffered the same injury
Trent Friend
Trent Friend Oy oldin
Surprised it wasn't a Covid diagnosis
Taco Roni
Taco Roni Oy oldin
Looks like he was choked too. Could it played apart being disoriented ? Like Loosing balance for being light headed for not getting oxygen to the brain ???? Dirty play overall
Samuel Lanthier
Samuel Lanthier Oy oldin
To me, it is a choke out, not a knock out. The amount of dammage occured way different.
Amanda Bush
Amanda Bush Oy oldin
Corny tho
Amanda Bush
Amanda Bush Oy oldin
You may be a doctor but u must not no that theres away to joke somone and cut air off and twerk u
Micheal McConnell
Micheal McConnell Oy oldin
It Wasn't Much Of A Hit To The Head. But... His Head Was Yanked From His Body(Lifting His Body Off The Ground)... And Then Neck Traumatically Twisted!!!
Tad Kowal
Tad Kowal Oy oldin
A choke out is different from a concussion. The reactions are similar. The results are vastly different. My son wrestled about 2 hrs after a choke out in HS. He was out 15 days with a concussion in college. (He quit wrestling, made Dean's List for the remaining semesters and is an electrical engineer now.) Yeah, that concussion scared the crap out of him.
bocoy noiu
bocoy noiu Oy oldin
U upload to fast and I’m not complaining, I love how u explain it
Mark Chambers
Mark Chambers Oy oldin
Thats not even a fencing response. Thats a natural body position while being tackled. It was vagal nerve response.
bocoy noiu
bocoy noiu Oy oldin
TruFinancial Oy oldin
Who thinks this concussion will affect him in the superbowl v TB?
TruFinancial Oy oldin
@PyRo 0117 what do you mean?
PyRo 0117
PyRo 0117 Oy oldin
He just murdered the bills
Brett Wagner
Brett Wagner Oy oldin
You call yourself a ‘doctor’ yet you feel qualified to diagnose someone from a 15 second video clip?! The sheer hubris. You don’t think the Chiefs and the NFL don’t have doctors who are FAR superior to you? They hire the best. That’s why they’re there diagnosing the athletes in real time and you’re at home, trying to profit from a 15 second tv clip. Mahomes showed no symptoms of concussion last night. The Chiefs said he was ok. The nfl said he was ok. But you think you know more than them?!? Hopefully you learned a lesson because this vid makes you look like an over confident clown.
Op-Ed Daily
Op-Ed Daily Oy oldin
"I don't care what anybody says," Dr. Sutterer says, disgracing himself and all other MDs out there. When I saw the play, I KNEW that wasn't a concussion because his head never actually hit the turf. You can see it in numerous angles. What you DO see is a man being choked out when someone's arm is wrapped around his neck and the other artery being cut off via neck crank. Sorry that you spent all that time in school to make assumptions about a person you haven't evaluated, and clearly never taught you to be open-minded about remote evaluation with no access to a 'patient's' medical history, any scans or other methods to help you diagnose someone with 'x' injury. It wasn't a "nerve" injury either - it was him being choked out. That's it. It wasn't a concussion, it wasn't a nerve injury - both his arteries were cut off and he went out but came-to quickly, but resulting in the small window of disorientation. It wasn't a concussion, Doc. Maybe you should save yourself embarrassment and stop being believing you know more than you do because you have a medical degree; it is clearly clouding your ability to understand that you can be wrong.
Mohamed Sharif
Mohamed Sharif Oy oldin
ZBlacktt Oy oldin
Another Superbowl looking OUTSTANDING tonight Doc.... well called in this video, lol...
soinhu foitu
soinhu foitu Oy oldin
I’m so glad he didn’t go back in. I’d imagine 15 years ago he would have kept on playing.
michael peters
michael peters Oy oldin
you ever heard of someone acting? that's what that concussion scene was.
michael peters
michael peters Oy oldin
@soinhu foitu easy to make it look intentional in slow motion, this happened in 1 second, remember that, and if you look at when they hit the ground, he was trying to let go but his arm was sort of wedged between mahomes helmet and chest. really weak hit anyways and this doc is making assumptions, NFL already said he didn't get a concussion, so, I guess I was correct. right?
soinhu foitu
soinhu foitu Oy oldin
grabbed around his neck and didn’t let go. That’s not an accident.
Luke Blersch
Luke Blersch Oy oldin
maholmes is injury has to not turn into a fractuted ankle but hes already looking to run but when he does he is going to get sacked and or tackled blitz and really make his life miserable in the way to do this is to beat Kc at the line of scrimmage but pressure maholmes until he throws a interception pick 6
Jonn J
Jonn J Oy oldin
Congrats mate, you have just been used as the medical expert in german football televison
Joseph Flinton
Joseph Flinton Oy oldin
Has nobody heard of a brachial stun before? Look at the arm position on his neck and clear applied pressure for more than just a quick touch. That’ll give immediate response similar to a head injury but it’s just a lack of blood to the brain. Anyone with combat training see what I’m seeing?
Cooney. B
Cooney. B Oy oldin
If the NFL keeps changing rules within 5 years it's going to be professional flag football. Unless you were there to check on him & perform the concussion protocol tests it's hard to give a definitive diagnosis for it. If he didn't pass all the stages of the protocol there is no way the team, team doctor & an independent outside doctor would all pass him/allow him to play. The team wouldn't risk a half billion dollar contract & 10+ years of winning/playing over clearing him for 1 game.
RamsesReturns Oy oldin
I think it was pulling his whole body by his neck that gave him the injury... head contact seems minimal to me.
Jack Mehoff
Jack Mehoff Oy oldin
Blah blah blah blah he has a concussion.
PyRo 0117
PyRo 0117 Oy oldin
But he doesn’t
Heather in Kansas
Heather in Kansas Oy oldin
Ew. Ew. Ew. Ew. Ew. Ok. Ew. I had to stop this at the 5:04 mark. I upvoted, but had to stop this at 5:04. Love the intelligent content, but can't handle the "shop talk" about the brain fluid, etc..bc... The brain seems too delicate to think about. Thankful for the info and praying for Mahomes long-term health.🌻🎋♥️
Kyle JC
Kyle JC Oy oldin
So a physician with years and years of training and years and years of bed side manner; shouldn't you wait for irrefutable evidence prior to claiming "without a doubt" or "is clearly concussed." Now on to the part that really bothered me most "I don't know know what else we need to see?" Umm going out on a limb, and mind you I have approximately the amount of hours I've watched your videos in medical training, but even I know that a MRI or CT would be a sufficient answer "what else do we need." I'd even be appeased with waiting for doctors on site administering cognitive and neurological tests. Clearly they saw or noticed something that didn't necessarily indicate a concussion but also that non statement of officially ruled out leaves the Browns thinking, "Oh shit, we have a chance" Clearly that was a reach on their end but anywhere I digress. Full disclaimer I'm born and raised KC, so this was just my rant but maybe next time since there are some medically uneducated people like myself that think the acronym ICE and a couple tylenol fixes everything, and may or may not have come straight to your page to see your assessment, would appreciate a little more objective and not subjective....But only for Mahomes. Your Dak Prescott injury seemed petty spot on. hahaha keep up the videos I have learned alot.
Agua Type
Agua Type Oy oldin
To ALL CLOWNS.. Dan Sorensen posted a pic for all you idiots who wanna talk, CLEARLY you see his shoulder hit FIRST, so stfu.. it was a LEGAL hit
A Garcia A Garcia
A Garcia A Garcia Oy oldin
I hope he gets popped again. Sorry, but I do. Running, scrambling qb's don't last long in the NFL. They have to become pure pocket passers and some go on to succeed, others don't.
Joe Angeloni
Joe Angeloni Oy oldin
His head never hits the ground. The other helmet broke the fall of the head to the turf. This abrupt stop is what did it.
Cline Broussard
Cline Broussard Oy oldin
nfl only cares about money so he's most likely playing tomorrow
jimmy dean
jimmy dean Oy oldin
And it's impossible to get all head injuries out of the game if there's tackling. You can take a knee to the head or hit your head on the ground like Mahommes. Like doc said, if the NFL is worried about head injuries they'll put these Velcro strips on the side of their body and pull them off for a stop. No more blocking, no more tackling, only running, and catching, and pulling flags
Manuel Pasco
Manuel Pasco Oy oldin
Boxing is almost the same as that, but they don’t call it concussion, it is knockdown or knockout if he stand up groogy.
DGI15 Upo
DGI15 Upo Oy oldin
Helmets should break under a specific amount of force. I think that might help
Dan Brobst
Dan Brobst Oy oldin
Good job. Sorensen should be suspended. Not to mention browns probably win without that illegal hit. I noticed it right away. Dirty play. Deserves justice. These guys have to stop putting winning over somebody’s brain that they have to live with for 50 years after retirement. Mahomes is the new goat. The defender says it was an accident but he grabbed around his neck and didn’t let go. That’s not an accident.
Dalton Gillihan
Dalton Gillihan Oy oldin
How sorenson talked him is the same way Ryan shadier came into his tackle that hurt him very dangerous technique
A Little Of Everything
A Little Of Everything Oy oldin
Love these analysis videos. Could have put other clips of fencing response examples.
Hector Viscencio Brambila
Hector Viscencio Brambila Oy oldin
It was not a helmet to helmet hit. Check the videos available. He was neck held which is extremely dangerous.
Miss T
Miss T Oy oldin
I think he meant to do that to my baby Patrick so couldn’t win the Super Bowl men they hating on us in Kansas City wow 😮 praying for him he get well..❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ we Love you Pat.. KC all day
Corey Kaiser
Corey Kaiser Oy oldin
It's physically impossible to lean forward and not have the helmet be what you are leading with. There is no way to tackle a runner that is also in a diving/extremely bent over position
Corey Kaiser
Corey Kaiser Oy oldin
It's not an illegal hit because runners are counted at defenseless players. It's also not fair to penalize a defensive player for leading with the helmet when the offensive player is also leading with the helmet
scott FREE
scott FREE Oy oldin
I'm dumber for watching this. Thanks a bunch.
Gears Oy oldin
Doc, did you miss the pull on the head, looked like he was getting hung.
Zachary Morrison
Zachary Morrison Oy oldin
What’s your opinion about them clearing him to play sunday
Bamfhammer Oy oldin
I think you need to find the 3rd angle of the goalline hit. As the receiver extends, the defender drops his whole torso low enough to make contact and actually first makes contact shoulder on shoulder, before then making contact with the head. While this is still dangerous, I don't know how you can possibly try to hit someone that low with your shoulder without lowering your head.
Joanna Oy oldin
If he plays next week he going to end up like Antonio brown
LongDayEarlyNights Oy oldin
Even more talented and rich? Tell us more.
Bruce Lehrer
Bruce Lehrer Oy oldin
When someone has their head hit the ground and get up all wobbly-like, that's not nothing, right?
William Smith
William Smith Oy oldin
An MD selling, please learn some TCM perspective on is merely a reflection of the internal environment, and can easily be managed with TCM principles. Love your videos, and would love to see you broaden your perspective.
Rene R.
Rene R. Oy oldin
football players are modern-day gladiators, gladiators died, stop watering down the game it is a choice.
Brooke Grey
Brooke Grey Oy oldin
I love your videos and they are so educational and help ma in school a lot but I do have one Genuine question can the coaches really say if Patrick was diagnosed with a concussion due to HIPPA laws
Joanna Oy oldin
first like, then to watch video :D?
Juan Campos
Juan Campos Oy oldin
The chiefs always getting help like the seahawks
Matthew Colwell
Matthew Colwell Oy oldin
I passed out standing up and did the weird arm thing, so idk
Joe Troutt
Joe Troutt Oy oldin
That thumbnail ain't right. It looks like Patrick is laying down stroking that dude's helmet.
Antoinette Lopes
Antoinette Lopes Oy oldin
When I was watching it, it looked like his neck got twisted by that guy's arm. Like when you mean to "snap someone's neck" but not that this was that severe or intentional. What I'm talking about happened after his helmet bounced.
kskisser Oy oldin
I always thought concussions were a skull fracture? In this case, it just seems like his jello got wobbled.
Pete Melabianakis
Pete Melabianakis Oy oldin
This nfl needs to deny him approval to play they should not clear him.
SuburbanErrorist Oy oldin
do you think it's a blood choke
Ratus Oy oldin
Ye that rashard higgins helmet to helmet was a blown call.
Muzz Pzz
Muzz Pzz Oy oldin
it mention 7 to 10 days or three months for concussion? why he cleared for one week early? from Coach did decide on him as play against Bills? that up to you, you're know about medicines and symptoms.
solidbroly Oy oldin
He got choked unconscious. Looked like a guillotine or bulldog choke. He was out for a second thats why he stood up like that. Concussion, maybe. But seems unlikely.
Francisco Cepeda
Francisco Cepeda Oy oldin
The set up last year was for the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl this year the plan seems to be for them to at least repeat. And with this concussion the NFL is risking a man's life by pushing for him to play a week after this type of injury which needs weeks for recovery. 💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵
NadaButH8 Oy oldin
Right. The NFL rigged the Browns game by having Mahomes removed. Y'all are DAF.
Zachary Davis
Zachary Davis Oy oldin
I feel like there is room to argue that that wasn't a fencing position situation when he got hurt. He stopped instantly and I feel like there are certainly ways he could've lost his balance or even been scared that he was gonna get hurt and ended up making his body rigid. I don't care enough about the situation to say that the team did or didn't lie, but I at least don't think its fair for people to say with confidence that the team or the league is pretending he's fine when he's not. I don't see why the team would lie because it has already been 5 of the 7 day minimum it takes to recover and they could be confident. I'm not a doctor or anything but from my limited understanding, it seems realistic enough that he could be ready at this point.
NadaButH8 Oy oldin
@Brian Sutterer MD You're harmful to public awareness. Nice projection. The mere fact that you CONTINUE to sit here and say the only way for him to appear the way he did is by concussion is absurd. Absolutely asinine. One could appear so by SPINNING IN CIRCLES! GFY.
Brian Sutterer MD
Brian Sutterer MD Oy oldin
The team isn't lying, they just aren't saying anything and are letting the public narrative run, which I think is harmful for public awareness about head injuries
Rob Meyers
Rob Meyers Oy oldin
Listen to this man NFL! Please.
Friksjon36 Oy oldin
What is Sam Bradford(?) doing back there?
ReeceNichols The Van Noy Real Estate Group
ReeceNichols The Van Noy Real Estate Group Oy oldin
Anyone that wobbles has a concussion. Good lesson.
SplitShot Scott
SplitShot Scott Oy oldin
I Concur !!
MindSET Oy oldin
19th century sports are immoral to begin with. Micro analyzing them doesn't change that.
Steven Oy oldin
“It was a choke out” guys, in full speed the guys arm was there for a second, AT MOST. There’s some serious mental gymnastics going on for people to tie an obvious concussion to these unlikely causes of the injury.
Steven Oy oldin
@NadaButH8 ...
NadaButH8 Oy oldin
And? You must really be slow :(
guy sumpthin
guy sumpthin Oy oldin
Gregarious Solitudinist
Gregarious Solitudinist Oy oldin
He was hit on the nerve in the side of his neck that causes instant incapacitation. But that does not fit the football is bad, narrative. his head was barely touched. he was moving forward when he was hit. The fencing movement is the logical conclusion of that energy.
Steven Oy oldin
Not even remotely true. Your head doesn’t need to be hit to have a concussion. Your brain is suspended in your skull - acceleration combined with a quick deceleration is enough to cause trauma to the brain when it shifts.
David Lingner
David Lingner Oy oldin
I thought it was clear that the Chiefs player put his head down and speared the ball. It should have been a penalty upon review. Regarding Mahomes I couldn't tell until I saw the other angle how he got a concussion but when he fell I thought something didn't look right.
J D Oy oldin
My theory is choked out. The arm gets trapped against his Carotid artery. As his head is forced forward it wedges the forearm tighter. He’s doesn’t truly get choked out till he then gets rolled over backwards completely cutting off blood to his brain. Hence choked out.
DayLight Era
DayLight Era Oy oldin
I still don't understand how the helmet to helmet wasn't called on the Chiefs
Eoghan Brogan
Eoghan Brogan Oy oldin
Would F1 drivers get concussions because of sudden acceleration and deceleration?
guy sumpthin
guy sumpthin Oy oldin
Cte is from repeated "sub-concussive " blows (less than a concussion) definitely all race accidents count as concussive or sub-concussive
Matthew Godwin
Matthew Godwin Oy oldin
I now hate Cleavand and refs cause called nothing
Donovan Shy
Donovan Shy Oy oldin
Also would this technically be described as coup-countercoup motion
Donovan Shy
Donovan Shy Oy oldin
I would argue that anytime the nfl had made a rule about hits guys are getting more injured if you look at the numbers more QBs are being hurt mostly lower body because defenders cant go high in the pocket anymore i agree they should do something about the helmet to helmet hits but i think an independent source should do the research and honestly construct the rule and give it back as a model for the nfl to either use or format their own rule around
Zachary Paris
Zachary Paris Oy oldin
Can't talk, busy fencing.
Ajay Bajwa
Ajay Bajwa Oy oldin
Hey doc. Please make a video on the NFL's decision to clear him to play on Sunday.
Darth Star One
Darth Star One Oy oldin
He playing😯🤔😯
BoBo Belinsky
BoBo Belinsky Oy oldin
wrong. His head was driven into the ground with the weight and force of the 260 lb linebacker who made the tackle. This is more than likely the cause of his obvious concussion. He will be more vulnerable in the next game to any hits whatsoever. If he was a boxer he would not be allowed to fight for at least 4 months based on their standard protocol. Now why doesn't the narrator make a video on the Covid hoax and explain to his listeners that its a flu that kills old and infirm people at the same rate that all seasonal flu's kill them each year. Its lethality rate all around is .03 per cent. It is nowhere near the epidemic category, this is a lie. It would be time much better spent by him and it would be a sincere act of bravery.
Donald Spaniol
Donald Spaniol Oy oldin
They dont care about player health.. They care about dollars... They pick certain teams to win and support them... Others get tossed in the gutter.. Player safety isnt even secondary to them Great video!
Tony Strickland
Tony Strickland Oy oldin
Or do you think it may have been a chokehold
Sean Lutke
Sean Lutke Oy oldin
Do you not think it's possible that he just got choked out a little and because he did go through some whiplash as well that he just got really light-headed and out of breath while trying to stand?
No Oy oldin
The goal line hit was perfectly acceptable. Stop being soft.
jose arrollado
jose arrollado Oy oldin
Bullcrap. The missed call was when the Browns player made the TD and the defender led with his helmet causing a fumble resulting in a touch back for KC . Chiefs would of lost that game if they got that call correct but no yellow flag.
NadaButH8 Oy oldin
You had Mahomes put on concussion protocol for a non concussion... But that 1 play your talking about lost you the game? Gee. Ok.
jose arrollado
jose arrollado Oy oldin
@guy sumpthin yah they do. Sports center had even said if Mahomes was not cleared too play thsi weekend they should postpone the game. I WAS LIKE WHAT??? You hit it on the nose bro. They favor the Chiefs.
guy sumpthin
guy sumpthin Oy oldin
Nfl favors the chiefs . They lookin for chief v pack superbowl (like they tried last year too) cuz its a rematch like the first sb game . Last years niners were so good they beat the pack and the refs
cvk g
cvk g Oy oldin
the helmet to helmet play is impossible to avoid when trying to stop the diving player. if serious they shld rule dives like they do slides. down at beginning. wldnt be entertaining but safer.
Iconhulk Oy oldin
Do one about swelling on the knee.. Le'Von Bell has swelling on the knee didn't participate in practice today..
Omar Oy oldin
Dude he got choked out. That is not a concussion
Paul Gerczak
Paul Gerczak Oy oldin
You can't prevent helmet-to-helmet hits they got to leave it the way it is you can't change it anymore unless you want to do two hand touch
The greatest ever
The greatest ever Oy oldin
Ricky Davis
Ricky Davis Oy oldin
Guys if you haven't played at an elite level, stop the jibber jabber! It's a full contact sport , if you want to play you have to pay. It's a man's sport. Not for pansies, the squeamish or those accustomed to receiving participation trophies! You keep watering it down you might as well call it the WNBA or the WNFL! Yea, I said It! It's what most Men feel! Men!
Colton W
Colton W Oy oldin
Wasn’t a concussion
BUMBA Oy oldin
Yeah he got cleared by an independent doctor meaning he was evaluated outside of the NFL’s doctors
Xsychology Oy oldin
Cleary was. The NFL doesn't care about the players, they only care about money.
RealHxntai -
RealHxntai - Oy oldin
Not a concussion he actually tweaked a nerve in his neck 🤷‍♂️
Rusty Nails
Rusty Nails Oy oldin
@AyeItsCollin well since his never even hit anything and he doesn't have a concussion, your theory doesn't hold much water.
AyeItsCollin Oy oldin
He has a concussion they just covering up for him since he’s their star player and they want rating happend to me before
joshua czajka
joshua czajka Oy oldin
I thought maybe he had the blood cut off to his brain hence the dizziness when he tried standing up? It's just an idea
jay howell
jay howell Oy oldin
If this guy thinks there was enough helmet to helmet contact here then he needs his eyes checked too
jay howell
jay howell Oy oldin
This is hate speech
ScottCleve33 Oy oldin
The NFL talks out both sides of it's mouth. They say they want to make sure the game is played safe and that if they can correct an incorrect call they have to do it. Then at the same time they limit those opportunities to do so because they don't want to slow the game down. So which is it NFL? Do you want the game to be played safely and get the calls correct or don't you?
Donna Lewis
Donna Lewis Oy oldin
Who cares what's being "reported" gmab
Chris Coy
Chris Coy Oy oldin
What is the percentage of being prone to another concussion or head injury if he comes back to soon? What is the difference from being knocked out and having a concussion. His recovery wasn't immediate, but I think about boxing and a fighter gets knocked out and gets back up. Why do people let that go and not report on concussion protocol for a week after the fight?
Cody Mcgowan
Cody Mcgowan Oy oldin
I want your computer monitor lol
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